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Geoff Milan

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Autonomous Vehicles
« on: March 20, 2018, 05:55:51 pm »
So.
The first human death involving self driving vehicles.
It failed to recognize her and her bicycle.
It had a backup person riding along in the drivers seat "just in case".
Canít wait until the autonomous pickup trucks appear. NOT !
:-\

https://www.canadianmanufacturing.com/research-and-development/women-struck-killed-uber-suv-marking-first-autonomous-vehicle-death-210169/?custnum=1245168&title=Production+Manager&utm_source=CMO&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=180320F

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Re: Autonomous Vehicles
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2018, 05:15:35 pm »
The synopsis of the collision suggests that the pedestrian (walking a bicycle) was struck immediately after stepping onto the roadway.  A human driver probably wouldn't have been able to avoid the collision.  Regarding trucks, they should have systems in place that slows the truck automatically when there is slowing or stopped traffic in front.  This would have prevented several major fatal disasters in Ontario in the past few years.  Similar technology stopped a terrorist operated truck in Europe, although only after it killed a dozen pedestrians.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/berlin-attack-truck-isis-automatic-braking-system-deaths-anis-amri-christmas-market-lorry-benefits-a7500591.html

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Re: Autonomous Vehicles
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2018, 09:34:40 pm »
I respectfully submit that the suggestion is contrary to the evidence.
If you watch the video of the actual accident, it is clear she was not struck immediately upon stepping onto the roadway. She was struck while having walked across almost three full lanes of roadway. This is without question a reckless undertaking on her part.
The issue is not whether a human in control would have also struck her.
The issue is why, if autonomous vehicles are so vastly safer than human controlled vehicles, did the autonomous vehicle fail to recognize both a pedestrian and a bicycle, and why did it fail to slow until after killing her?

 https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/22/video-released-of-uber-self-driving-crash-that-killed-woman-in-arizona


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Re: Autonomous Vehicles
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2018, 10:47:49 pm »
"Automated braking sensors" on heavy trucks don't work in North America.

The sensors get caked in ice and sodium chloride brine turning on the braking system, unfortunately if you're on ice,it's less than ideal.
It has been blamed for more than one wreck.
Not to mention the dangers of a truck that's coming to a stop on a highway(if it can be controlled on snow/ice).

Drivers are pulling out the fuses and disabling the systems.

Many companies don't want them period. They're actually considered unsafe in the industry.
« Last Edit: April 20, 2018, 10:51:07 pm by Shawn »

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Re: Autonomous Vehicles
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2018, 10:16:36 am »
I suggest that the technology needs refining to work in the North American environment.
My car has "eyesight" technology that detects objects ahead and would apply the brakes to avoid or reduce the severity of a collision.  In conditions of heavy rain or blinding sun, the system automatically disables itself and indicates that it is disabled with an audible sound and a conspicuous dashboard display.  There have been 2 occasions (in 5 years) when it activated the brakes unnecessarily, both at very low speeds....once when entering a car wash when it didn't want to enter with the entrance curtains ahead, and once when parking in a space with overhanging branches directly in front of the sensors (on each side of the rear view mirror).